Here at Journalism.co.uk, we love a good podcast and we are always on the lookout for new tricks of the trade.

On this week's podcast, we speak to two people who know a thing or two about what it takes to create an engaging listen, but have also learned the hard way the importance of having data backed up.

Georgia Coan, podcast producer, BBC News and Benjamin Frisch, podcast producer, Slate share their stories on common podcasting mistakes and tips on how to avoid them.

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