Many journalists use open-source tools to try out new storytelling styles and article formats, if not to perform daily tasks that keep their stories on track. From WordPress to Timeline JS, open-source software comes in many shapes and sizes - but if you are not paying to install it and use it, how do the teams behind it stay afloat?

In this podcast, Journalism.co.uk speaks to Douglas Arellanes, founder of Mural, an open-source tool that aims to make visual storytelling more accessible to newsrooms. Previously at Sourcefabric, Arellanes has many years of experience in the open-source community.

He explains some ways you can keep businesses afloat while releasing open-source software, why customisation is an important advantage, and highlights the importance of building a community around your code - and why that can sometimes be challenging.

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